> ## Content Index > Fetch the complete content index at: https://www.ceo.com/llms.txt > Use this file to discover other available public pages before exploring further. # R360 Managing Partner Charlie Garcia: The exclusive network of ultra-successful leaders - URL: https://www.ceo.com/episodes/r360-founder-managing-partner-charlie-garcia/ - Published: 2025-02-25T11:00:07.000Z - Updated: 2026-08-28T03:53:55.000Z - Description: The R360 founder on six presidents, 2,000 hours of AI, and the mentor who handed him back his own succession plan. - Author: Clint Betts # Charlie Garcia turned down nine billionaires Charlie Garcia has spent decades in rooms most people never hear about. He advised six presidents from both parties. He holds the Defense Meritorious Service Medal for service in Central America in the mid-1980s, and after the September 11 attacks, he did work that earned him the CIA's Agency Seal Medal and a Director of National Intelligence award, according to [his biography on R360's site](https://r360global.com/about/our-team?ref=ceo.com). On his own Substack, he describes that period in one line: the phone rang, he was available, and [what followed is still classified](https://charliepgarcia.substack.com/about). He taught Latin American militaries about propaganda in the eighties. Now he runs a club for people worth at least $100 million, and one of the things he most wants them to do with the money is take an unpaid government job. "I was on the Florida State Board of Education," Garcia told the CEO.com Podcast. "In the six years that I was there as an entrepreneur, I was able to transform key parts of the Florida education system." Jeb Bush appointed him, and he led the statewide reading task force. He chaired the U.S. Air Force Academy Board of Visitors from 2005 to 2012, appointed by George W. Bush and Barack Obama, and took the job in the middle of a sexual assault crisis. He would like every one of his members to do something similar in whatever town, state, or agency they care about, instead of only writing checks. The club is called R360\. Garcia had done the peer-group circuit himself, joining YPO and Vistage because he never got an MBA and wanted what he had missed. Those groups make you a better CEO. R360 was built on a different premise: that a family who only knows how to manage financial capital is in trouble. The specifics came together during a one-year fellowship at Harvard under the mentorship of Bill George, author of *True North Groups*. [R360's own account](https://r360global.com/about?ref=ceo.com) says Garcia's team refined the idea through Harvard's Venture Incubation Program by interviewing more than 100 ultra-high-net-worth families. On the podcast, Garcia described a 10-week summer program in 2019 that took 20 teams out of 130 applicants, staffed his team with Harvard and MIT professors and 10 students, and produced the concept: a peer group for people who had built wealth above $100 million and shared what he calls a spirit of generosity. [R360 launched the following year](https://hispanicexecutive.com/charlie-garcia-r360/?ref=ceo.com). So the programming rotates through six forms of capital: financial, intellectual, social, human, emotional, spiritual. Chapters [meet five times a year](https://r360global.com/about/how-were-different?ref=ceo.com), with social events in the off months and a standing rule against pitching. At the end of each meeting, Garcia said, you tell the room what you will do before the next one, for yourself, your spouse, your children, your grandchildren, and the room holds you to it. Getting in is the hard part. When Garcia spoke with the podcast, the membership committee, which he does not sit on, had rejected 72 applicants, nine of them billionaires. Not for lack of money. R360 now says it is [close to 200 families averaging $600 million each](https://r360global.com/about?ref=ceo.com), with a stated target of 1,000 and an ambition to touch 3 billion people. Sixteen of the current members never went to college. Nine dropped out of high school. Some grew up not eating every day. "Something went off in their brain that said, no freaking way, this is not going to be my life," Garcia said. The same wiring that built the fortune, in his telling, is what makes them want to give it away. ## 2,000 hours A few years ago, after an R360 meeting on intellectual capital, Garcia committed to four hours a day on artificial intelligence. He has since logged roughly 2,000 hours. The advice he got early was to pick one model and go deep rather than skim 10, so he spent a year on ChatGPT, then added Claude. Now he works with an engineer from a member's AI company, which already has 180 employees, on a platform that sends one prompt to five models and compares the answers. His demonstration on the CEO.com Podcast was for a friend facing heart surgery. Asking a chatbot a question cold, he said, is like asking a stranger at a bus stop. So he did not ask for the best heart surgeons. He asked the model what criteria it would use to pick them. It gave him 15\. He asked it to apply them, and none of the original five names survived. He asked those five how they would improve the criteria for the whole world, applied that, and only one American made the cut, alongside two surgeons in India, one in France, and one in Japan. Then he asked the five what specialist was missing from their team. A Japanese surgeon doing robotic and AI-assisted procedures. Then he described his friend's case. The panel came back with four non-invasive tests to run before anyone operated. Three minutes, start to finish. The friend's cardiologist wanted to know who he had been talking to. Garcia also gave his 88-year-old mother, in hospice and devoutly Catholic, an hour-long voice conversation about the Virgin Mary drawn from Scripture. "If I could go back 30 years, I'd be a software engineer," he said. "But now with AI, as long as you know how to ask questions, you can create teams of whatever." He has since become a writer in his own right. He edits R360's members-only Night Owl, writes the Street Sense column for MarketWatch, and in October 2025 launched a Substack called [Capital Mischief](https://charliepgarcia.substack.com/about). By his account there, one MarketWatch column reached 800,000 readers. In [a March 2026 release issued under his own name](https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/former-presidential-adviser-hits-1-new-bestseller-on-substackwithout-ads-paid-acquisition-or-a-marketing-team-302712965.html?ref=ceo.com), Garcia said Capital Mischief hit #1 New Bestseller across the platform 143 days after launching with no paid marketing, and that he is completing a debut thriller, *Satoshi v. Goliath*, headed to HarperCollins. On the podcast, he made the bitcoin case plainly. He told his children he expects it to be above $10 million in 20 years. R360 uses BitPay so employees can route any share of a paycheck into it. He said he is still buying for the portfolio with the longest horizon he manages: his grandchildren's. His politics run in the same direction. He said American schools have given capitalism a bad name and that the federal payroll, not foreign aid, is the country's largest fiscal problem. He also thinks the country has forgotten how to argue. The first president he worked for, in the last six months of the Reagan administration, used to invite Tip O'Neill over for poker. Reagan told O'Neill he disagreed with 80 percent of what he believed, then proposed they start on the other 20. When Garcia wrote for CNN in 2012, his editor required a footnote on nearly every line. He misses that. ## The job description Every CEO.com Podcast episode ends on the same question: who gave you a chance? The show's premise is that the chances one gives are as important as the chances one takes. Garcia wrote his first book, *A Message From Garcia*, partly to honor his mentors, and he has lately been tracking them down to call and write thank-you notes. His grandfather told him to learn to shave on someone else's face first. His former father-in-law, Seymour Holtzman, gave him an early opportunity. A four-star general became a father figure. [Sol Trujillo](https://soltrujillo.com/biography/?ref=ceo.com), who grew up in Cheyenne, Wyoming, and went on to run US West, Orange, and Telstra, became his partner in Garcia Trujillo because he wanted to help a young Hispanic entrepreneur succeed. But the one he kept returning to was Max Chapman. Chapman had run Kidder Peabody and sold it to General Electric, then became president of Nomura. Garcia thinks he was the first American to sit on the board of a Japanese company. Chapman joined the board of what Garcia called "my little rinky-dink company" for no reason Garcia could identify other than wanting to help. One day Chapman called him in. Part of my job is succession, he said. If you get hit by a bus, who do I hire? Write me the job description. Garcia wrote it, went on vacation, came back, and brought it to Chapman's office. Chapman handed it back to him. Read it, he said. Be honest with yourself and me. Is that you? No, Garcia said. Then there are two choices, Chapman said. You come onto the board, and we hire that person to scale the company. Or we sell it. Garcia sold Sterling Financial, which he had grown to 60 offices in eight countries. That was 2006\. Two years later, Bear Stearns, his clearing agent, no longer existed. ```chapters 00:00:12 Introduction and Career Background 00:02:09 Founding R360 00:03:14 Wealth Beyond Money 00:04:50 Philanthropic Initiatives 00:06:44 AI and Dalai Lama Project 00:08:40 Membership Criteria 00:09:25 AI Learning and Implementation 00:10:50 AI in Healthcare 00:17:06 Key Leadership Traits 00:21:31 Economic and Political Outlook 00:23:46 Education and Societal Issues 00:30:30 Elon Musk and Government Efficiency 00:36:32 Who Gave You a Chance 00:39:10 Importance of Mentorship ``` ```vtt WEBVTT 00:00:12.867 --> 00:00:14.738 Charlie,<00:00:13.270> thank<00:00:13.383> you<00:00:13.464> so<00:00:13.609> much<00:00:13.835> for<00:00:13.915> coming<00:00:14.157> on<00:00:14.238> the<00:00:14.319> show. 00:00:14.980 --> 00:00:26.953 You<00:00:15.287> are<00:00:15.545> the<00:00:15.787> founder<00:00:16.738> of<00:00:16.948> R360,<00:00:18.206> which<00:00:18.368> is<00:00:18.464> a<00:00:18.529> 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