Always be developing

In November of 2001, Rob Riggle got orders to CENTCOM. He reported on the 17th and flew to Afghanistan on the 30th, assigned to the public affairs section under Lieutenant Colonel Max Bowers, who commanded 3rd Battalion, 5th Special Forces Group. Riggle joined the unit just after it took Mazar-i-Sharif. He spent part of that deployment having lunch with mullahs, negotiating over schools and drainage ditches, refusing to leave his weapon behind.

Years later he played Bowers in 12 Strong.

That is the whole man in one fact. Two careers most people would consider mutually exclusive, running on the same track, occasionally colliding in ways nobody planned.

The quit

The hinge was 1994, in Corpus Christi, in intermediate flight training. Riggle had a private pilot's license, a theater and film degree from Kansas, and a decision to make. Pin on the wings and the Corps owns the next decade. At the end of it he would be too close to a pension to leave.

"So all of a sudden I was like, 'Wow, they got me for 20 years,'" he said on the CEO.com Podcast. "I want to try acting and comedy before I die."

He had never quit anything. So he made the quitting expensive. In the back of the book he was reading, Tony Robbins' Unlimited Power, he wrote down what the decision would have to buy.

"I said, 'Look, if I do this, if I give up on flight school, then it's got to count. It's got to matter. So what am I going to do? What am I going to accomplish?' And the first thing I wrote was, I'm going to get on Saturday Night Live."

August 1994. Lorne Michaels called in August 2004.

In between: nine years active duty and the start of 14 more in the Reserves. An embassy evacuation in Liberia. Kosovo and Albania. Two deployments to Afghanistan. Nearly three weeks on the rubble piles at Ground Zero with a bucket brigade, in his utilities the day after the towers came down. A marriage. A kid. And seven years at the Upright Citizens Brigade Theatre in New York, learning from Amy Poehler, Matt Walsh, Matt Besser and Ian Roberts.

"Whatever it took to be around the theater, that's what I did with the hopes of getting an opportunity."

The 20 masters

He was the only new hire at Saturday Night Live that year. He lasted one season.

The 2004 election was supposed to deliver the usual ratings bump. Kerry and Bush did not deliver it. NBC panicked and overhauled the cast, and Riggle, in his own accounting, was the last one in and the first one out. He took the call at his parents' lake house with his whole family waiting upstairs to hear, and a new baby at home.

"I was hurt. I was embarrassed. I was sad. I felt ashamed. Just all these terrible feelings, they flood in. They flood in. And they will take you down if you let them."

He gave it 15 minutes, then called his manager to ask where the next paycheck was coming from.

He does not blame the ratings entirely. Asked what he would do differently, he goes straight to something more uncomfortable.

"As the season went on, I started to lose my voice a little bit and tried to please like 20 masters. And if you try to please 20 people, you don't please anybody. So I kind of lost the vision of how I got there and what made me unique."

The Daily Show hired him in the summer of 2006 on a six-month probationary deal. He wouldn't move his family across the country for six months, so he rented a furnished studio off Craigslist from a woman leaving for Spain and flew home every third weekend, which was what he could afford. He was still a field grade officer, still working through Command and Staff College on weekends at Miramar. Land at JFK Monday morning, cab straight to the studio with the suitcase. Two years of that.

Six months became a year. A year was still not enough to move anybody.

He shared an office with John Oliver, who dragged him back into stand-up, which he had tried once and hated. On what the show meant, he reaches past himself entirely, to the court jester in the king's court, the only man in the room permitted to say the true thing.

TR

Riggle turned up at a technology and business event as a comedian, which seems like an odd booking until he starts talking about entrepreneurs.

"You'll find the best creativity, not necessarily on the silver screen, but entrepreneurs trying to solve problems."

His president is Theodore Roosevelt, and what he took from the biographies is not San Juan Hill. It is a sickly kid whose father told him the world would run him over, and who then built himself a body and a career out of nothing but output.

"If you want it, it's going to require no less than 100%, and probably more like 105% to 110%, which you don't think you have. But it's there. You just got to tap into it."

He is blunt about the failure mode.

"I don't think people sign up for that when they start on their journey to success. They're like, 'I'll give it two or three years. And if it's not happening by then, I'm out.' Okay, that's not how it's going to work."

And blunt, too, about the cheapest available shortcut, which is listening to somebody who already did it.

"You don't have to critique it, you don't have to judge it. You don't have to comment on it. Just soak it up. If someone says, 'Hey, go this way, and you won't die,' go that way. It may save you about five years."

ABD

Glengarry Glen Ross gave the world ABC. Always be closing. Riggle rewrote the last letter.

"ABD, Always Be Developing. In my industry, you have to be developing, because unless you're one of about 10 A-listers, Brad Pitt or someone, no one's writing scripts and turning them into me. So I have to create a lot of my own stuff and create my own material and my own shows."

The receipts are public. In November 2014 he became a co-owner of a small-batch vodka distilled outside Kansas City, and kept his name off the bottle and off the website on the theory that nobody has ever bought a drink because he was involved. He created and starred in his own Crackle series. He hosts Riggle's Picks, now 258 episodes deep, taped partly out of a Kansas City studio.

The next six weeks are the argument in miniature. Don't Move, a creature feature adapted from a novel by Impractical Jokers star James Murray, opens nationwide on September 11. Nickels follows on October 2 in select theaters and on PVOD, with Riggle leading as an entrepreneur convinced his dead brother's spirit has returned. And The Pirate King, in which he plays a Marine veteran fighting PTSD, addiction, and a custody case, premiered at SXSW in March 2026 and is waiting on a release date.

He took that last one for reasons that have nothing to do with a career.

"It spoke to me on a very deep level. I worked with a lot of veteran organizations, and I could see what Josh was doing here, and I thought it was important."

In 2010, he called two other Shawnee Mission graduates, Paul Rudd and Jason Sudeikis, with an idea: host a poker tournament for Children's Mercy. They said yes. Nine weeks later, the first Big Slick happened. It has since raised more than $34 million for the hospital.

In February, the Pat Tillman Foundation named him official starter of the 22nd Pat's Run, and in April he sent 30,000 people down the road in Tempe. In May he fronted the Kansas City Chiefs schedule release as a 90s home shopping host.

Twenty-three years in the Marine Corps, retired as a lieutenant colonel. Thirty years in a business he describes as a permanent final exam.

"Sometimes you get it right, and sometimes you get it wrong. Sometimes you are on a hot streak. And then sometimes you make mistakes. And then sometimes people in your life let you down, and there's nothing you can do about it. It's just life."

00:00:00 Introduction and Early Comedy Roots
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00:15:25 Getting Cut and Facing Rejection
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00:19:37 Balancing Family, Military School, and TV
00:27:59 The Daily Show's Cultural Impact
00:29:22 Transition Into Movies and Hollywood
00:31:09 Passion for Entrepreneurship and Business
00:35:14 Growth, Failure, and Adversity
00:36:22 Lessons From Teddy Roosevelt
00:43:01 Hollywood Strikes and the AI Question
00:45:24 Always Be Developing New Work

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