First class

The first thing Tommy Watson did as a principal was throw out the chairs.

They were folding chairs, in a teachers' lounge that looked, in his words, really depressing. He told his secretary to get rid of everything. Then he drove to a hotel liquidation store, explained that he was a school principal trying to change a culture, and came back with executive office furniture and a red oak conference table. He repainted the lounge. He redid the front office. His message to the staff of a low-income school outside the Twin Cities was that they were not a low-income school. "We were a first-class school serving first-class students, and we were going to be first-class in everything we did," Watson told the CEO.com Podcast.

That year, in a building of 700 kids, there was one suspension.

Watson had learned the principle before he ever ran a school, in a McDonald's management training program: you get things done through other people. A principal serves students, but he reaches them through teachers, and a teacher who does not feel valued will not make a student feel valued either. When the parents he needed did not show up, he stopped waiting for them and recruited the mayor, the police chief, and members of the school board to mentor kids instead. Visitors to the school saw adults everywhere. Few of them were parents.

He puts it as the difference between compliance and commitment. Compliant people show up for the paycheck and leave the moment something better appears. Committed people have a leader who knows what they want out of life and cheers for them. He points to Tony Dungy, who on game day mostly praised his players and let his assistants coach. Watson thinks the great resignation, in teaching and everywhere else, happened because organizations had spent years buying compliance and never bothered to ask what their people actually valued.

He has a proposal for the teacher pay problem too. A career swap. Send CEOs and politicians into classrooms for a day. Put the teachers in the corner offices. Clint Betts guessed the executives would come out saying it was the hardest thing they had ever done, and the teachers would come out wondering what all the fuss was about. Watson laughed. "I'm being paid millions of bucks for this. This is good."

Watson is an executive coach and speaker now, based in Charlotte, North Carolina. He has spoken to the NFL and to McDonald's, written A Face of Courage about his childhood and The Resilience of Champions about what he took from it, and he left the principalship about 13 years ago to do this full time. The resilience material is not a brand he picked. It was, as he says, happenstance.

He grew up in Denver's Five Points. His parents were drug addicts and shoplifters, and by the time he graduated high school they had been arrested 121 times between them. He lived in foster homes and crisis centers and seven different motel rooms. Not hotels. "Hotels are the fancy ones," he told Betts, when Betts got it wrong. In second grade he watched his father put a key into a motel door that would not open. The owner was standing in the parking lot, watering the dirt, and told them they had not paid and to leave before he called the police. Everything the family owned was behind that door. They got back in the car, drove to the next motel, and started over as if it had not happened.

In eighth grade, nine of them were in one room with two beds. Six of the adults were using drugs. Watson and his younger brother and sister took care of themselves, which meant eating at school and, some days, stealing food. He walked seven miles from Commerce City to a Denver rec center to keep playing basketball. He says this is what separates homelessness from poverty. His friends in the projects had hard lives, but they knew where they would sleep that night and the government knew where they were. His school had no phone number for him and no address. "We were invisible to society."

The thing he wants people to understand is that his siblings were in that room too. One sister ended up on drugs. One brother became an addict. His younger brother went into the gangs and, in Watson's junior year, took a gun to school and was sent to juvenile prison. They watched the same parents come home from a day of shoplifting and shoot up and walk around like zombies, and for some of them it became familiar, something to be curious about. For Watson it produced something close to hatred. He hated being hungry. He hated dirty clothes, being laughed at, and his parents disappointing him. He was in eighth grade, and he had already decided.

He decided on a coach. A recruiter from Mullen, a private Catholic school in the suburbs, came into the inner city looking for kids who might be something other than what the neighborhood expected, and told a group of them that if they came to Mullen there was a good chance they could go to college. Nobody in Watson's family had gone to college. From the motel room, with no parents around, he made the honor roll for the first time and won a wrestling title and a state award given to a handful of Colorado kids. Mullen took him in 1988, according to Rocky Mountain PBS, through a new academic support program for students who needed it. His football coach there, Pete Levine, once said Watson had come from "below nothing."

His parents went back to prison that summer. His grandmother, Helen, came out of retirement and moved him and the two younger kids into a stretch of the neighborhood people had started calling Little Compton, after the Los Angeles gangs that had relocated there. Watson took three city buses to Mullen, leaving at 6:30 in the morning and getting home between 8:00 and 10:00 at night, for years. By his senior year, the grandmother had Alzheimer's and was in a nursing home, his mother had been arrested for the 44th time, his father for the 77th, and a family friend was letting him sleep on the floor with the understanding that he would be out by May. He was an All-American with more than 30 scholarship offers, and he barely graduated. He left for the University of Minnesota a couple of days after the ceremony with no home address.

"I didn't spend a lot of time talking about my circumstances," he said. "I spent more time focusing on my vision." If the dream is not bigger than the circumstances, the circumstances win. That is the whole of his coaching philosophy, and he arrived at it around age 14.

A back injury in the weight room ended the NFL plan. The doctorate never began as a plan. It began with Watson sitting across a desk from McKinley Boston, Minnesota's athletic director, who was explaining that after two years of partying, Watson was about to be kicked out of school. Watson was not listening closely. He was reading the name tag, which said, Dr. McKinley Boston. It was the first time he had met a Black man with "Dr." in front of his name. "It planted a seed in me to say, wow, if this guy right here can become a doctor, I think I could do the same thing." He did. Four degrees. When people told him a principal did not need a doctorate, he said it was personal. He had a learning disability as a kid and struggled to read.

He is candid about the parts that did not resolve. His mother died of heroin about 20 years ago, after a decade in which the two of them were finally close. His father died during the pandemic. His oldest sister, Melinda, died of cancer a couple of years ago. The rest of the siblings are, he says, something more than siblings now. Two live near him in Charlotte.

His current project is a feature film called Resilient, based on the book. He has been at it since 2017. He says a short version won eight festival awards. At the time of the interview he had brought on a director and started casting. In early 2025, he ran a Kickstarter for the feature that drew 63 backers. He is not from the industry and has been reading his way into it. He wants a film that shows what child homelessness looks like from inside, because The Pursuit of Happyness showed a homeless man and never a homeless kid fighting. His wife is backing it. He acknowledges the risk. He also recorded a rap single, also called "Resilient," which he plays for school assemblies. "It wasn't good," he said. The point he makes to the kids is that you can be a rapper and a doctor at the same time.

Betts, who spent his own first years in foster care before he and his older brother were adopted, asked Watson how a country this divided might find its way back to seeing each other. Watson's answer was story circles. Put people from opposite ends in a room and make them explain how they got there. Most people have never slept in a motel with nine relatives, but everyone has been in a spot where the odds were against them, and that is enough to build on. The alternative, he said, is that people stay on their side and make up stories about the other side to fill the gap. He runs his marriage the same way. His wife drives him nuts most days, and he drives her nuts, and what keeps it working is that each of them knows the other's why.

Who gave Tommy Watson a chance? His sister Melinda, who stayed home with the baby while the rest of them went to find food. His grandmother. His Aunt Mildred, who took the kids in with her own and signed him up for basketball. Sister Brendan Jordan, his teacher at Mullen, who believed in him when few did and who was still emailing feedback on his newsletters at 92, not long before she died. Coach Levine. His wife.

"I'm hoping to be half that to the kids that I'm mentoring and the people that I'm working with."

00:00:00 Introduction and Early Childhood Struggles
00:02:03 Living in Motel Rooms and Finding Sports
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00:06:39 Dreaming Beyond Circumstances as a Survival Tool
00:10:14 Pivoting When Dreams Change
00:17:01 The Spark That Led to Pursuing a Doctorate
00:19:00 Why Education Matters So Much
00:21:41 Leadership Lessons as a School Principal
00:24:41 The State of Education and Teacher Support
00:31:13 Bridging Division Through Shared Stories
00:35:33 Reflections on the Foster Care System
00:37:31 Family, Loss, and Lasting Bonds
00:38:54 Building a Life in Charlotte
00:39:05 Creating a Movie About Childhood Homelessness
00:42:11 People Who Gave Him a Chance

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